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Post by htcdude on Jul 8, 2015 9:31:57 GMT
Then the following day in exactly the same spot. Amazing the differences in species! Common Swift Lackey x3 Buff Arches Common Emerald x2 (NFY) Light Emerald Blood-vein Small Blood-vein (NFY) Mullein Wave x2 Riband Wave x9 Single-dotted Wave (NFY) Barred Straw x2 Scorched Wing x2 Barred Yellow Common Carpet Pretty Chalk Carpet Dark-barred Twin-spot Carpet (NFY) Cypress Carpet x2 Ruddy CarpetDouble-striped Pug x2 Foxglove Pug x2 Green Pug x6 Ash PugThe Magpie x2 Brimstone Peppered Moth Mottled Beauty x2 Brussels Lace x5 Clouded Silver x6 Clouded Border x2 Sharp-angled Peacock x4 Barred RedPrivet Hawk-moth x2 Elephant Hawk-moth x5 Buff-tip x2 Pale Tussock Common Footman Buff Ermine x27 White Ermine x3 Heart and Club x5 Heart and Dart x41 Flame Shoulder x7 The Flame x13 Large Yellow Underwing Broad-barred WhiteDouble square-spot Ingrailed Clay x2 Purple Clay Setaceous Hebrew Character Dark\Grey Dagger agg x2 Dot Moth Shears Lychnis x2 Clouded Brindle Clouded-bordered Brindle (NFY) Green-brindled Crescent (NFY) Small Angle Shades x2 Dark Arches x13 Marbled Minor agg x9 Uncertain x10 Mottled Rustic Beautiful Golden Y x2 Fan-foot x9 Straw Dot Snout x5 Cocksfoot Moth Agapeta hamana Celypha lacunana Celypha striana x18 Grey Tortrix Flax Tortrix x3 Barred Fruit-tree Tortrix Plum Tortrix x2 Bramble Shoot Moth (NFY) Notocelia rosaecolana x2 (NFY) Eudonia mercurella x2 Garden Grass-veneer x5 Crambus perlella Small Magpie x6 Rush Veneer Anania coronata Udea olivalis x4 Dolicharthria punctalis295 moths of 82 species. Still waiting on a Coleophorid and a Minor to be examined Nige
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Post by petecollins on Jul 12, 2015 14:59:44 GMT
The weather conditions were almost perfect for trapping on Friday night, so unsurprisingly I had a good haul of moths - 410 of 92 species. In terms of species thats the second highest I've ever had.
Small Yellow Wave x6 Small Magpie x7 Beautiful Hook-tip x14 Riband Wave 38 Brimstone x8 Clouded Silver x14 Leopard Moth Chinese Character Buff Arches x2 Marbled Minor agg. x 4 Agapeta hamana x4 Green Pug x7 Peach Blossom Straw Dot Udea olivalis x4 Plain Golden Y x4 Willow Beauty x10 Buff Ermine x4 Fan-foot x2 Elephant Hawkmoth x6 Burnished Brass x7 Small Emerald x4 Scarce Footman White Satin Moth Heart And Dart x23 Ghost Moth x2 Treble Brown Spot x4 Common Rustic agg. x2 Crambus pascuella x5 Chrysoteuchia culmella x6 Agriphila tristella x2 Flame Shoulder Emmelina monodactyla Large Yellow Underwing x16 Least Carpet Light Arches x3 Nut-tree Tussock Udea prunalis Small Blood-vein Common Footman x8 Swallow-tailed Moth x4 Light Emerald x5 Smoky Wainscot x11 Variegated Golden Tortrix Bird-cherry Ermine x3 Single-dotted Wave Mother of Pearl Eudonia lacustrata x7 Marbled Orchard Tortrix The Uncertain x27 Dot Moth x10 Clepsis consimilana x2 Celypha striana x2 Yellow Shell Varied Coronet Dark Arches x32 Silver-ground Carpet The Rustic x3 Mottled Rustic x4 Cnephasia sp. Crambus perlella x2 Euzopherus Pinguis The Flame x5 Double Square-spot x8 Peppered Moth Iron Prominent Bright-line Brown-eye x5 Short-cloaked Moth x2 Large Fruit-tree Tortrix x3 Common Wainscot x3 Heart And Club x 5 Eudonia mercurella x2 July Highflyer x2 Setaceous Hebrew Character Large Nutmeg x2 Small Marbled Brown-line Bright-eye Common White Wave x3 Bee Moth Dark Fruit-tree Tortrix Clouded Border Shoulder-striped Wainscot Endotricha flammealis Barred Straw Foxglove Pug Brown Rustic Dun-bar Dark/Grey Dagger x2 Double Lobed Mottled Beauty Bordered White The Coronet x2
The Bordered White was new for the garden - the only one I'd seen before was at the Thursley Common WAB meet in 2011.
But the undoubted star of the show was the Small Marbled - not only new for me, but possibly only the fourth ever for Hertfordshire (depends how up-to-date the online records are).
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Post by htcdude on Jul 13, 2015 8:48:10 GMT
Excellent Pete a great haul!
I went to a moth night at a local park on Saturday night and got several lifers. An amazing night with 5 traps run. Over 600 moths or just under 150 species!
Here's what I saw:
Ghost Drinker Chinese Character Peach Blossom Buff Arches Figure of Eighty Common Lutestring Large Emerald Common Emerald Small Emerald Small Fan-footed Wave Riband Wave Large Twin-spot Carpet Phoenix (NFY, Wilts tick) Barred Straw Barred Yellow July Highflyer (NFY, Wilts tick) Pretty Chalk Carpet (Wilts tick) The Fern V-Pug Green Pug Small Yellow Wave Magpie Clouded Magpie Clouded Border V-Moth Blomer's Rivulet Brimstone Bordered Beauty (NFY) Swallow-tailed Moth Peppered Moth Mottled Beauty Common White Wave Clouded Silver Poplar Hawk-moth Elephant Hawk-moth Yellow-tail (NFY) White Satin Moth Dingy Footman (NFY) Scarce Footman Buff Footman (NFY) Common Footman Buff Ermine Heart and Club Heart and Dart Flame Shoulder Large Yellow Underwing Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing Double Square-spot Green Arches Bright-line Brown-eye Clay Common Wainscot Southern Wainscot Smoky Wainscot Poplar Grey Dark\Grey Dagger agg Coronet Marbled Beauty Dark Arches Light Arches Rufous Minor (NFY) Tawny Marbled Minor Common Rustic agg Dusky Sallow Uncertain Marbled White Spot Burnished Brass Silver Y Spectacle Beautiful Hook-tip Straw Dot Snout Pinion-streaked Snout Fan-foot
Bird-cherry Ermine Diamond-back Moth White Plume Agapeta hamana Aethes cnicana Pseudargyrotoza conwagana (NFY) Light Brown Apple Moth Barred Fruit-tree Tprtrix Grey Tortrix Light Grey Tortrix Lozotaeniodes formosana (NFY) Clepsis consimilana Marbled Orchard Tortrix Celypha striana Epiblema foenella Dioryctria abietella Euzophera pinguis Eudonia lacustrata Eudonia pallida Garden Grass-veneer Brown China-mark (NFY) Small Magpie Udea prunalis Udea olivalis Mother of Pearl Anania lancealis
I only stayed til 01:30 but there were other species that I didn't see but the recorder logged when he recorded everything in the morning.
Hard to decide which one I like the best!
Nige
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Post by petecollins on Jul 13, 2015 12:15:04 GMT
Very impressive list, Nige!
I only trap in my mother's garden, but you are definitely encouraging me to try trapping elsewhere with other people.
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Post by htcdude on Jul 13, 2015 13:51:17 GMT
It was the first time I've trapped locally outside of my house and 2 friend's houses. Definitely worth it if you want to boost your species!
It's finding habitats that have different food plants too, like the site I was at has Wych Elm, which isn't as common any more and is the Blomer's Rivulets only food plant.
Nige
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Post by lizb on Jul 13, 2015 14:25:26 GMT
Gosh, well you both give me something to aspire to. Not that I think I could cope with identifying that number of new species at the moment. I am pleased if I can gradually add a few new ones to my list.
Feeling a bit frustrated at the moment as haven't had a n opportunity to set a trap for a bit as I have been away from home, then I had a bad cold, now the rain has set in again.
I have only trapped in my garden and am wondering about the practicalities of trying elsewhere. I have even suggested to my other half that we go ahead with a camping weekend we have been talking about in August and take a trap with us. Have you any tips. In particular - how to run the light.
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Post by htcdude on Jul 13, 2015 21:25:03 GMT
Over the winter I modified mine a bit, stuck a jar lid upside down underneath the bulb, so when it rains I can stick the jar on, run the trap in the rain then. It rained most of last night and I had it out, still had c140 moths. Apparently they like the rain,which I never knew until last week! Remote trapping is something I'd like to do more. If there's no power source available then you can run off a generator (although obviously noisy!) or off a car battery. Smaller actinic traps might last all night, but your normal Robinson trap jobby probably wouldn't last. But might give you a few hours for you to stay up Nige
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Post by lizb on Jul 14, 2015 7:53:51 GMT
Nige, thanks for tip, especially about rain. Like you I assumed that would deter them from flying. Having said that, did notice quite a few day flying moths out and about in wildflower meadow area in walk in rain on Sunday. If nothing else it might encourage them to seek shelter in trap. Will also a think about some remote trapping. I have got to stage where my new garden species numbers are dropping off and I would like to expand into new territory. Will discuss using car battery for a while with my other half. Don't want to get to stage where I call out AA to remote spot because of battery flattened by moth trap! I was assuming to try and leave on all night but I guess a couple of hours just after it gets dark would still be productive?
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Post by htcdude on Jul 14, 2015 10:23:18 GMT
Yeah I mean the list I had from Stanton Park was species I saw between dusk and 01:30, so there's plenty around, it's trying to get them in a pot to have a look at that's the tricky part as they're obviously quite active still. Don't use your car battery that's in your car, use a separate one Nige
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Post by lizb on Jul 14, 2015 13:47:47 GMT
Thanks. That makes a lot of sense! Quite recently had to have new car battery fitted as original had lost power - wish I had kept old one now as it would have done. I will consult himself!
If I was just going our late from where I live in Surrey, is there any location you recommend? I will let you know how I get on. Wont be for a couple of weeks now but still should be good flying season. Actually you will know when I come back with a whole load more queries!
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Post by htcdude on Jul 14, 2015 14:11:40 GMT
Always best if you're running a trap remotely in a public place to alert the local police that you're doing it. Make sure it's somewhere that won't disturb people, or if it's likely it will, let them know.
Otherwise any kind of park that has rangers, maybe a council park, ask the for suggestions. When I enquired about running one at Banstead Woods just before I moved they were keen to have me do it. So maybe drop them an email.
Nige
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Post by lizb on Jul 14, 2015 14:35:08 GMT
Will probably take up your suggestion re Banstead Woods some time, thanks. Just been discussing batteries and inverters with my other half who is electrical engineer so think I will leave this to him. Except possibly type of trap we use. At home I now have Robinson with 125W AV bulb. Probably not practical for transporting. we also have original home made trap with black light which is less successful but useful in places where neighbours overlook. Also just been looking at portable Heath type traps but think I am coming towards end of my budget if I have to get additional batteries etc. Should I look at lower wattage AV light do you think?
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Post by htcdude on Jul 14, 2015 14:40:56 GMT
To be honest, it's not something I've looked into much further. I've only trapped away from home using my 125W MV Skinner trap, always run off power. It breaks down so I can transport everything in one box.
Sorry I can't be much more help!
Nige
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Post by lizb on Jul 14, 2015 15:19:56 GMT
That's OK thanks. Robinson is less portable - not least because plastic cover melts if it gets hot. Mine crumpled when left in my greenhouse, when I complained the supplier admitted he had one that melted in the boot of his car! Apparently only designed to use after sundown! Caveat emptor! I think we are going to adapt our homemade or make a Skinner type with a different light.
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Post by htcdude on Jul 15, 2015 10:17:05 GMT
Sounds good, look forward to seeing what you get Finally finished sorting through my trap from the garden on 13/07, a nice 5 lifers : Bird-cherry Ermine x3 Batia unitella x3 Ypsolopha sequellaPhtheochroa inopianaClepsis consimilana Acleris forsskaleana (NFY) Light Brown Apple Moth Timothy Tortrix Codling Moth Bud Moth Flax Tortrix Acrobasis suavella Eudonia lacustrata x4 Garden Grass-veneer x38 Agriphila straminella (NFY) Small Magpie Anania lancealis (garden tick) Mother of Pearl Udea prunalis Common Plume Small Blood-vein Small Fan-footed Wave x3 Single-dotted Wave Riband Wave x2 Dark Umber (NFY, garden tick) Clouded Border Brimstone x2 Small Ranunculus Gothic (NFY, Wilts tick) Scalloped Oak x2 Swallow-tailed Moth Peppered Moth x2 Poplar Hawk-moth Elephant Hawk-moth x2 Buff-tip Common Footman x2 Heart and Club Heart and Dart x23 Flame Large Yellow Underwing x6 Bright-line Brown-eye Clay Poplar Grey Dot Moth x2 Dark Arches x3 Dingy Shears Common Rustic agg x4 Uncertain x4 Rustic Burnished Brass Snout 139 moths of 51 species Also Common Wasp, Common Red Soldier Beetle, Harlequin Ladybird. Thanks, Nige
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