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Post by rowanberry on Nov 3, 2016 22:52:59 GMT
We came across these in the woods today- this is probably the biggest cluster of mushrooms I think I've ever seen. They were all carpeted around the stump of a beech tree, some were even growing out of the top of it although they don't show up very well in the photo. I was glad we got to see them since they never last for very long. I don't know what they are, but I hated to disturb them by breaking any off to get a look at their gills- they were growing so nicely I decided to leave them alone.
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Post by NellyDee on Nov 5, 2016 16:50:50 GMT
Agree
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 6, 2016 21:35:40 GMT
Thanks for the id... I googled them, and discovered they can be quite a nuisance in a garden. Fortunately they appear to only be around this stump, so not doing any harm here in the woods.
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 7, 2016 21:12:05 GMT
That's a bit of a worry... I'll let the people who look after the woodland know about it, and send them photos; thanks, Ashgale.
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Post by aeshna5 on Nov 8, 2016 5:24:40 GMT
That's a bit of a worry... I'll let the people who look after the woodland know about it, and send them photos; thanks, Ashgale. There isn't a problem with Honey Fungus in woodland- it's a native group of species + death + decay are part of that ecosystem. However some strains can be a menace in a horticultural setting when prized shrubs/trees can succumb.
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Post by Cotham Marble on Nov 8, 2016 9:43:13 GMT
That's a bit of a worry... I'll let the people who look after the woodland know about it, and send them photos; thanks, Ashgale. There isn't a problem with Honey Fungus in woodland- it's a native group of species + death + decay are part of that ecosystem. However some strains can be a menace in a horticultural setting when prized shrubs/trees can succumb. Yes Honey Fungus has got an undeserved reputation, the various forms recorded in the UK all seem to be native species and whereve possible should be seeking to live with it. There is quite a lot of alarmist information about Armillarias but their role in turning wood into material useable by other organisms is basic to many food webs and the pathogenisity of the various forms is quite variable. I'm not up to date with the latest species attributons, I believe the British specimens had been allocated to five different named groups, but a fairly simple three group division is good enough for the concerned gardener, based on rhizomorphs and pathogenicity. Forms that produce extensive rhizomorphs tend to be of limited lethality, those producing a limited network, particularly a limited soil network of rhizomrphs tend to be of only medium lethality and those which are the most lethal to a wide range of woody plants produce few rhizomorphs beyond the infected plant. Some plants are more prone than others - Cherries seem especially susceptible and probably the main source of horticultural antipathy toward Honey Fungus. There are lists of plants that are supposedly resistant but there doesn't seem much solid evidence behind these lists, the most important protection is overall health of the plant. There is no chemical treatment against Honey Fungus although a cleaning fluid was repackaged and sold as such for years and some garden centres will still offer this even though it is now illegal to make any claim of effectiveness. In the Armillaria forms that do produce extensive rhizomrphs there is well established evidence of growth of up to 10 metres in optimal conditions, these being moist uncompacted soils. Lab based research has shown that rhizomorphs can grow up to 1 metre a year, however there is no evidence that anything like this is matched in the wild, although very extensive growth was known in coal mines - which is probably where the name bootlace fungus comes from, and another source of bad press, rot in pit props being a killer. If there is concern about Honey Fungus the only effective treatment is removal of the food source - dead and dying plants or building waste with timber mixed in. The rhizomorphs will eventually die if cut off from food sources, although soils and composts with a high peat or woody fraction can sustain them, so digging out the rhizomrphs can also be helpful although it is usually a pretty grim task, thankfully they do only rarely reach down more than 40 centimeteres and have difficulty penentrating compacted and clay soils. It is also worth noting that to some extent the presence of fruiting bodies excludes the presence of rhizomorphs spreading out into the soil so early action can prevent soil rhizomorph development. One the important lessons about Armillaria solidipes the 'worlds largest living organism' is that it was only able to grow to this size by not killing its native hosts and was only recognised because it does readily kill some of the planted timber.
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 8, 2016 19:30:15 GMT
Thanks for all that info, Cotham Marble... I won't say anything about them then; no sense in spreading alarm if it's unwarranted. The woods are primarily hornbeam, with oaks and a few beeches, no fruit trees...a few rowans. They did some coppicing a couple of years ago to encourage younger trees to get some growth, because the oaks were pretty much of the same age and the woodland managers were concerned that they could all die off at about the same time. The hornbeams have been coppiced throughout the years. Mushrooms and fungi do crop up here and there, but this was the largest group I'd ever seen before.
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