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Post by Cotham Marble on Jul 1, 2016 12:38:47 GMT
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Post by rowanberry on Jul 1, 2016 14:37:17 GMT
I know for a lot of people there were grave concerns about TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership)...a trade agreement that was being negotiated in secret between the EU and the US. It seemed to give priority to the profits of corporations over everything else, and there were rumours that it was a way for America to get GM crops into Europe and the UK. Environmental damage has been caused in Canada because of CETA, the trade agreement between them and the EU. www.independent.co.uk/voices/if-youre-worried-about-ttip-then-you-need-to-know-about-ceta-a6671886.htmlI don't know... I just don't know what we should have done for the best. I don't trust the politicians from either side of the debate, and since we never know the full truth anyway I think it's very difficult for us to make the best decision for all concerned.
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Post by Cotham Marble on Jul 2, 2016 11:23:28 GMT
I certainly don't have any special insights. For wildlife and habitat the imediate concern is I think, that protections that are currently supported by EU level legislation will not be adequately re-drafted into UK (and NI, Wales and Scotland) law when the split fully happens. None of the effects of Brexit have been thought through and if the UK's historical approach to farming for instance takes over from the EU influenced model then we may see much more rapid industrialisation of agriculture with some very negative consequences for rural UK.
On the issues of TTIP and GM, I fear we will be far less able to resist a US favoured trade model outside the EU than when were in it and that we will be TTIPed by default without having any say whatever. The effect of the outvote is also likely to greatly strengthen the hand of the political Right and I doubt very much that once we are outside the EU, that the UK will continue to ban GM, either as imports or as crops. In fact I would say that all 'green' policies are now heavily under threat as a worsening economic position becomes the excuse to dump any green restrictions on economic activity. From my perspective the EU is a progressive force, that the arguments against it have largely been based on impossible perfectionism, and that we are now going to feel the effects of the loss of a strong progressive influence. Unless in the very unlikely event the UK is able to generate a very different political force of its own to anything currently on offer and there doesn't seem much sign of that on the horizon.
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Post by accipiter on Jul 8, 2016 18:34:21 GMT
YouTube Brexit the full movie.
Not really a movie as such but rather an interesting documentary about the workings of the EU running time 1 hour 11 mins www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
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