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Post by NellyDee on Mar 30, 2016 15:09:43 GMT
I am posting this as I think it is appalling. I hope you all refuse to buy honey from places like this - bet the honey is on our supermarket shelves! I for one will now not buy any honey unless it is produced in the UK where at least the bees are looked after.
www.facebook.com/SantuarioGaia/videos/1114931511890717/ |
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Post by faith on Mar 30, 2016 16:53:17 GMT
Gosh, that's horrible. I never imagined there could be such a thing as cruelty to bees, but I see there definitely is. I absolutely agree with you about only buying UK honey now.
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Post by NellyDee on Mar 31, 2016 8:20:01 GMT
why stop at non UK honey ? there are many products on the shelves that come from countries that have lax animal welfare laws, even the EU has some questionable sources too  we try and ensure as much as possible, that we only buy UK produced stuff, in as far as you can trust the labelling ! a local supermarket has many items that have chicken in them, with the source being Thailand, Brazil, Poland etc, all of which gets put back on the shelf once we see where it originated from, so, UK chicken is more expensive than foreign produced chicken etc, but it's a price we are willing to pay  I agree with you. I do not buy chicken, meat etc unless it is British. Though I do think some British products are questionable, especially chicken. What I find appalling about the honey production is that it is not long ago that there was a big campaign about saving and caring for bees as without them everything we depend on needs them to pollenate. |
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Post by faith on Mar 31, 2016 11:18:43 GMT
I have to say I only buy 'happy animals', that is to say, free-range chickens, outdoor-reared bacon, wild venison etc. Of course it is vastly more expensive but I feel it is putting my money where – literally! – my mouth is.
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Post by accipiter on Mar 31, 2016 11:50:22 GMT
How did I miss this post, this is horrendous, just why do people think that insects have less rights than any other creature! Although my main interest is birds and a very select few at that I often stop and marvel at fascinating insects for their sheer beguiling beauty, bees, wasps, butterflies, spiders, and dragonflies they all have part to play in the natural world without man would be far the poorer. All living creatures have poetry in their souls if one would only take the time to find it.
What is this life full of care we have no time to stand and stare no time to stand beneath the boughs and stare as long as sheep and cows.
No time to see when woods we pass where squirrels hide their nuts in grass no time to see in broad daylight streams full of stars like skies at night.
No time to turn at beauty’s glance and watch her feet how they dance no time to wait till her mouth can enrich that smile her eyes began.
A poor life this if full of care we have no time to stand and stare.
William Henry Davis
Alan the wandering minstrel
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Post by faith on Mar 31, 2016 17:57:25 GMT
Yes, I wouldn't trust any supermarket egg further than I can throw it. Our local corner shop gets eggs from a farm just down the road, and they are the nearest I have ever seen or eaten to the ones we used to have when we kept hens ourselves. DIY is the best option of all, of course – OK with hens but not so easy if it's bacon or beef you are after . . .
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Post by shirl100 on Mar 31, 2016 18:08:06 GMT
I have to say I only buy 'happy animals', that is to say, free-range chickens, outdoor-reared bacon, wild venison etc. Of course it is vastly more expensive but I feel it is putting my money where – literally! – my mouth is. Same here, I buy free range organic meat and poultry from a farm in Lancashire although I don't eat it the other says it tastes like meat should taste. Eggs of course always free range and not supermarkets own brand as I prefer to know exactly where they came from. The main reason I turned veggie about 35 years ago was intense farming and the cruelty suffered by animals as a result. Whatever species humans decide to eat there is absolutely no justification for cruelty ever! Shirl |
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Post by Tringa on Mar 31, 2016 19:51:43 GMT
That is awful and shows that some countries have very little regard for animal welfare, but most of the time we are unaware of it. I don't want to hijack this thread but as eggs were mentioned, I have only recently seen this one - www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/25/government-planning-to-repeal-animal-welfare-codesAll newspapers have their bias but if this is correct how can any Government comtemplate putting the controls on farm animal welfare in the hands of those who will make the profit from the industry? Dave |
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Post by faith on Mar 31, 2016 20:09:52 GMT
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Post by Tringa on Apr 1, 2016 18:08:06 GMT
Thanks for that link Faith. I'm on the 38 degrees mailing list but I missed that one.
Dave
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Post by ayjay on Apr 1, 2016 18:16:43 GMT
if this is correct how can any Government comtemplate putting the controls on farm animal welfare in the hands of those who will make the profit from the industry? Dave Easy - cronyism, nepotism, old school tie-ism, self-interest - call it what you like, it will amount to the same thing. Are you really that naive Dave? |
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Post by Tringa on Apr 1, 2016 18:35:46 GMT
No, not that naive Ayjay just amazed (and I shouldn't because I seen it many times) how a Government can announce such a thing and think they are kidding anyone.
Dave
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Post by faith on Apr 6, 2016 15:45:40 GMT
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Post by alf1951 on Apr 8, 2016 8:45:53 GMT
I'm puzzled as well as shocked by this video - I thought honey bee populations were under threat already without treating them like this? As it happens, I never eat honey - can't stand the stuff and eat little in the way of animal products - became a "lapsed" veggie when I met Mrs A and the dinner plate has been an area of compromise ever since!
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Post by faith on Apr 13, 2016 13:18:36 GMT
we used to buy eggs from the supermarket, that had on the box, that they came from happy hens in an happy natural environment, produced locally, until, out on a walk one day we passed this haven for hens, huge great, windowless sheds, situated in large grassy close mown fields with the odd sapling here and there, which sounds great for the hens, but in all the times we have been past the place since, not once have we see a solitary chicken outside of one of the sheds, so now our eggs come from a local farm, where the chickens roam where they like, eat what they like and even act as natural chickens should do (and the eggs taste great too ) In view of what ashgale says here, today when passing I thought I had better check out the local farm where my (super-tasting and -looking) eggs come from. The manager showed me their field – about half an acre of nice healthy grass – and (from behind a fence) their shed. The bit I could see was what he called the scratching area: about mid-morning when laying is finished, the hens can come out here and thence to the field. But although they clearly could get out, and occasionally poked their heads out, they seemed much happier to stay under cover (admittedly it was rather a cold damp day) where they were not crowded or harassing each other or anything, but just behaving in a normal hen-like way. I think the man was a bit embarrassed that they were not outside, but that really did seem to be by their own choice. So I was quite happy to agree that they were genuinely free range. We used to keep hens ourselves, and though I was puzzled that these ones didn't want to come out, I couldn't see anything to suggest that they weren't well looked after. |
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