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Post by faith on Aug 18, 2015 16:00:01 GMT
I know what this is, but thought John (and others) might be interested because it is such a beautiful example of a pappus. The flower has an unusual habit too . . . Aeshna don't answer! I'm sure you know, but maybe other people would like to try their hand at it? JGTBAN by Wabi Gallery, on Flickr
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Post by aeshna5 on Aug 18, 2015 16:52:54 GMT
I do know + won't spoil it!
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Post by stigofthedump on Aug 18, 2015 21:08:26 GMT
Excellent idea Faith. My guess is a Sowthistle of sorts.
Hot, warm, cold or blooming freezing?
Vince. |
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Post by Eristic on Aug 18, 2015 21:46:40 GMT
I'm going to have a stab at scorzonera just to keep things active.
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Post by John Pappus on Aug 18, 2015 22:09:06 GMT
Hmm. doesn't look like a Sonchus to me, the underlying pattern in the pappi (pappi - what an awful word - yuk) makes me think this.. I don't know quite what it is though - interested to find out though. Intriguing.... More clues - more clues - we need more clues!  |
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Post by stigofthedump on Aug 18, 2015 22:29:00 GMT
Now this is the way I like forums. Chat and discuss these things. Again well done Faith.
Vince |
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Post by silversea on Aug 18, 2015 22:42:49 GMT
Tragopogon I suppose.
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Post by teasel on Aug 18, 2015 22:47:22 GMT
Oh, I was going to say that silversea Jack goes to bed at noon. |
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Post by John Pappus on Aug 19, 2015 3:11:33 GMT
Aha - 'goat's beard'... A nice post - keep 'em coming, keeps us all sharp!
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Post by silversea on Aug 19, 2015 4:08:36 GMT
I don't know how to separate salsify from this image (which is why I just said Tragopogon which encompasses both).
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Post by faith on Aug 19, 2015 9:13:24 GMT
Brilliantly done everyone! Stig and eristic you were off to a good start because you had the right family: Asteraceae, the Daisy family.
John, I'm sure there's only one of you, and I've never heard anyone say 'pappi' – I think if I had a whole lot of heads I would still just say 'pappuses', like 'circuses'?
Silversea (hedging bets) and Teasel have got it. Tragopogon pratensis, Goatsbeard. I don't know Salsify from personal experience, but I think the pappuses (see? it sounds OK) might be virtually identical. Once you had the flowers (different colour!) or even the leaves, you would know, of course.
And the folk name of Jack-go-go-bed-at-noon is quite accurate (allowing for BST); the flowers do actually close at midday and open again the next morning. I have often tried to catch one open in the afternoon but never succeeded. I wonder if it's something to do with having an early-morning pollinator?
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Post by teasel on Aug 19, 2015 9:38:00 GMT
oooo Happy dance I don'even know how I knew it - probably your clue! I came across them years ago in Merthyr Mawr sand dunes and the folkname must have stuck! |
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Post by John Pappus on Aug 20, 2015 6:44:43 GMT
........... John, I'm sure there's only one of you, and I've never heard anyone say 'pappi' – I think if I had a whole lot of heads I would still just say 'pappuses', like 'circuses'? ............... And the folk name of Jack-go-go-bed-at-noon is quite accurate (allowing for BST); the flowers do actually close at midday and open again the next morning. I have often tried to catch one open in the afternoon but never succeeded. I wonder if it's something to do with having an early-morning pollinator? Hmmm, but when trying to photograph the nuclei of 2 different fungi yesterday, I had to consider several foci caused by their varying radii before choosing the best to use.... Oh dear..... I may have just written the most ghastly sentence I've ever had the misfortune to read - double-yuk! I certainly prefer the '-uses' form also - just looks & feels better somehow. The early-morning pollinator sounds likely, there's always an beneficial reason for the forms many and wonderful of the plants, the more I look, the more wonderful they become! Thanks for the mystery picture Faith - great fun and really nice photo's as a bonus! Keep them coming, they're great. Many of the plants have the most interesting often quite local names - always with a good reason too - my darling Wife's Father, a weather-beaten old farmer that's forgotten far more than I'll ever know about wild plants, has great knowledge of these things, and not just for plants. |
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