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Post by arsherwani on Nov 6, 2020 15:30:59 GMT
Hi All.
We really need help from experts. We got major issue in our garden. Some animal come don't know what time and poops in our garden. They have converted it into a toilet. We don't know what to do. I tired putting fox repellent and extra light but still keep going. We are not sure what animal it is, whether a cat, a fox or a squirrel.
We got a picture but not sure why not able to attach with this thread.
Will appreciate if you can help as we are not able to use the garden, we got two lovely kids but they cannot go outside because of this issue.
Please help. Thanks
Ahmad
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 6, 2020 18:10:41 GMT
Hello, Ahmad-
I've just seen your post, but am in the middle of preparing dinner... I will get back to you by this evening! Sorry you are having problems, the neighbourhood cats have done the same in our garden- I'll write you out some of the tips that have worked for me and post them tonight.
Rowanberry
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 6, 2020 21:18:56 GMT
One thing I've found that works well at keeping the cats out of our garden is garlic oil... like this one, which I've used before. nikura.com/products/garlic-essential-oilI do have to warn you, this stuff is strong. Once it was opened I had to put the bottle inside another sealed container because I could still smell it! I also used rubber gloves, because it's difficult to get off your hands. The cats were coming into our front garden and using it all night long, so I simply dripped about ten drops across the entrance and down the path, and a few more around in the grass where they'd been pooping. For about three days the smell was overwhelming until the rain diluted it... it's not pleasant, but the idea is to break the cats or foxes of the habit of using your garden as a latrine. They don't like the smell of garlic, citronella or citrus... so if you don't like the idea of garlic oil a strong essential orange or grapefruit oil also might work. I also save up any orange peels or lemon rinds, cut them up and scatter them around too. Since winter is coming, your children probably won't be out in the garden as much and so this is a good time to start discouraging the animals from coming around. If they are coming over a garden fence, you can drip the oils along the top of the fence or where ever you can tell they've been. I've had problems with cats hiding under our hedges trying to stalk the birds coming to the feeders, so I've also cut holly branches and scattered the leaves under the hedge to make it too uncomfortable to lurk under there. Let me know how you get on with it... if the garlic oil isn't practical come back and I'll try and recommend something else. good luck!
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Post by ianr on Nov 7, 2020 8:15:10 GMT
Hi Ahmad, I've had some success with used coffee grounds although it's short lived and needs to be reapplied after a week or so or more likely applied elsewhere in the garden as they move around.
I'm not seeing any detrimental affects on the plants from the coffee grounds.
rowenberry how long is the oil effective for? ian
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 7, 2020 9:53:18 GMT
I'm not really sure, Ian. We had a lot of heavy rain not long after I applied it, but the smell of garlic was really strong up until then. I think it would have lasted more than a week if the weather had been dry. Snowlynx complained he couldn't go out in the front garden because it was so overwhelming, but I may have overdone it a bit. There's been no fresh cat scat since, though- so that's a result. He got a car cover for our little Up, (plenum chamber issues... that's another story) and the young fox cubs thought the straps were the best fox toys ever, (they're stretchy).
They chewed one strap off altogether one night, so he dribbled a bit of that garlic essential oil on the remaining ones and they've not touched them since. I actually think most essential oils might have some effect, because they're so concentrated. I got a box of some for Christmas last year, but they weren't good quality so I dripped them on and around the bins to discourage a neighbourhood tom from spraying around them. The oils were the usual 'Christmas' mix of things like Frankincense and Myrrh, and they were pretty awful, (I hate to think what the poor binman thought... the rubbish probably smelled better!) The tom wasn't too impressed either, because he stopped marking. I think once they're discouraged from using a certain garden, they go find another one and then it's just a matter of re-doing the oil now and again to keep them from coming back. I have to admit the garlic one is effective but I find it rather awful as well, (and Snowlynx certainly does... and he's got no sense of smell!) It must make the cats' eyes water. After I use this one up I might try one of the citrus oils and see how that works.
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Post by Psamathe on Nov 7, 2020 11:16:48 GMT
I'm not a "cat person" but my Mum has had problems with cats BUT they tend to try and bury their poo - the problems she was having was the cats digging up bedding plants in tubs (so they could poo in the dug hole ...).
Bit of an "off-the-wall" idea for original poster but whilst the issue is unresolved, maybe try and get the children interested in finding the visitor, is it wildlife or domestic. They could start identifying visiting wildlife, Googling their poo and why it is like it is, etc. and it could (in the meantime) be a learning exercise (learning about wildlife, what they eat, observing their behaviour, common or rare, start a log, etc.).
Ian
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Post by arsherwani on Nov 9, 2020 9:50:46 GMT
Hello All,
First of all, I am really sorry for the late reply.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I really appreciate that you find time to reply to my problem. I will definitely follow the suggestions.
My worry is, both our neighbours neither have a cat and I never saw a cat in my garden. I have heard the cat poop is smelly but this is not smelly at all. So I am not too sure whether it is a cat or something else - Only animals I saw are squirrels and blackbirds really. Is there a way I can share the picture I have taken?
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Post by ianr on Nov 9, 2020 11:39:29 GMT
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Post by arsherwani on Nov 9, 2020 13:03:20 GMT
HI Ian, Thanks a lot. I am really sorry to share the disgusting photos but this will give you an idea what pain I am going through. Is this really a cat ? or some other creature as it is not smelly. We got a brand new garden this summer and this creature is ruining but leaving the bits here an there. I thought it might be a fox but we got 6ft plus fence and never seen one before. I have to clear the poo almost every day but as you can see below it poo again on top of old ones and some other places too 2 by rafay, on Flickr thumbnail_image0 by rafay, on Flickr
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Post by Tringa on Nov 9, 2020 14:14:22 GMT
A bit of a guess here. Your photos do not look identical with examples I have seen but the poo looks a bit like deer. There is an example of deer poo on here - www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife/how-identify/identify-pooThis would fit with the poo being without smell - cat and fox poo is definitely smelly. Do you have any deer in your area? A few of the leaves in your photos look as if they might have been nibbled. Do any of the other garden plants show signs of being eaten? A six foot fence would keep out some deer but are there any places where the fence is a bit lower? This is definitely just a guess and others who know more than me will be able to give other and better suggestions. Dave
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Post by arsherwani on Nov 9, 2020 14:37:12 GMT
HI Dave,
Thanks for looking at it too, much appreciated, but definitely not a deer as we live in Greater London with no big parks around and we got big fences and our neighbors too. The parks that have deer are miles away.
Regards
Ahmad
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Post by ianr on Nov 10, 2020 7:42:52 GMT
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Post by arsherwani on Nov 10, 2020 10:42:31 GMT
Thanks Ian,
I will check about that too, about time to put some cameras now and see what is going on.
Thanks All.
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Post by rowanberry on Nov 10, 2020 18:05:39 GMT
I have to say I've never seen droppings like that in our garden and we gets lots of foxes and cats... it's definitely some sort of herbivore though, isn't it? Carnivores don't leave pellets like that... and that is a lot, too! I'm not surprised you're getting fed up with it, Ahmed. If I were to see that out in a field I would thing deer- but if you have high fencing I don't see how they would get in. (Oh, and don't worry about them being disgusting photos... we've seen much worse. You've got to get a trail cam now, and solve this mystery- we all want to know what it is!
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Post by Harold Smith on Nov 11, 2020 11:42:35 GMT
HI Dave, Thanks for looking at it too, much appreciated, but definitely not a deer as we live in Greater London with no big parks around and we got big fences and our neighbors too. The parks that have deer are miles away. Regards Ahmad Hi Ahmed, Though you live in an urban area it is not unknown for deer to come into them to forage, especially at night. There have been some reports of more wild animals visiting urban areas due to lockdowns. There being less people and traffic about. Harold.
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