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Post by lizb on Jun 8, 2015 16:21:49 GMT
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Post by lizb on Jun 8, 2015 16:24:48 GMT
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Post by lizb on Jun 8, 2015 16:26:21 GMT
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Post by aeshna5 on Jun 8, 2015 17:35:06 GMT
Some tentative IDs:
1 Light Brocade
2 I'm not convinced (partly because the legs don't look hairy enough) but just maybe Pale Tussock
3 one of those tricky pugs- perhaps Mottled Pug?
6 maybe Celypha lacunana
7 maybe C. stiana
8 I'm confident Common Swift
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Post by aeshna5 on Jun 8, 2015 18:59:23 GMT
4 I think Shears
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Post by petecollins on Jun 8, 2015 19:02:08 GMT
aeshna5 has just beaten me to it, I was about to say 4 is Shears!
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Post by lizb on Jun 8, 2015 21:19:51 GMT
Thank you both
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Post by alphawolf on Jun 8, 2015 22:17:40 GMT
Qucik and weird question but how do you find them? In a garden surroundings!
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Post by htcdude on Jun 9, 2015 13:21:00 GMT
Qucik and weird question but how do you find them? In a garden surroundings! Use a moth trap or leave the lights on near the house sometimes works  Nige |
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Post by htcdude on Jun 10, 2015 8:02:02 GMT
Have had a look through, agree with most:
1 Light Brocade
2 Pale Tussock
3 Mottled Pug
4 Shears
5 - can't place this one...
6 Cnephasia sp (can't ID from photos, most common though is Grey Tortrix, Cnephasia stephensiana)
7 Celypha striana
8 Common Swift
Nige
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Post by lizb on Jun 10, 2015 16:31:58 GMT
Thanks Nige, especially for Grey Tortrix suggestion. I note from my records that I saw one last year - recorded with a question mark because of possible alternative.
Bit exasperated looking for 5 - actually had two of these in trap so not just one variant. Here is the other
Quite pleased with my first proper trap at weekend - 25 identified so far, 13 new for me - plus a few day fliers from last month and a Small Elephant Hawk moth in my shed - coming up to anniversary of my first trap last year - looking forward to growing my garden list further.
Just about to sort the last few, perhaps less clear pictures, so watch out for another plea for help!
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Post by alphawolf on Jun 10, 2015 17:33:17 GMT
Thanks Nige, especially for Grey Tortrix suggestion. I note from my records that I saw one last year - recorded with a question mark because of possible alternative.
Bit exasperated looking for 5 - actually had two of these in trap so not just one variant. Here is the other
Quite pleased with my first proper trap at weekend - 25 identified so far, 13 new for me - plus a few day fliers from last month and a Small Elephant Hawk moth in my shed - coming up to anniversary of my first trap last year - looking forward to growing my garden list further.
Just about to sort the last few, perhaps less clear pictures, so watch out for another plea for help!
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Post by lizb on Jun 10, 2015 18:25:40 GMT
This was Robinson trap with 125W MV bulb. This is very bright and I only use it near my house in an area that can be shielded so that it does not shine on my neighbours property.
I started off using a homemade trap with a black light (See post by Hank "Bucket trap" on this forum. ) This has advantage that it does not disturb neighbours and can be put anywhere in garden. Also it is a lot cheaper to make - and to run. It does not attract as many moths but does attract a variety of moths as it can be put in different positions. I still use this occasionally.
A lot of people make their own traps or improvise very successfully and there are a lot of helpful articles on the internet about this.
I think quality rather than quantity is important - especially when one is less experienced - as it does take time to sort and photo the moths early in the morning after they have been trapped so that they can be safely released again before they are damaged.
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Post by htcdude on Jun 11, 2015 10:35:02 GMT
I'll keep looking later for a possible for your other Noctuid. Which county are you in? You could try asking the county recorder, they're usually quite helpful Nige |
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Post by htcdude on Jun 11, 2015 10:48:27 GMT
Just had a thought, how big was #5? Marbled Minor are very varied and could be this. To fully determine species though it would need gen det to separate it from Tawny Marbled Minor and Rufous Minor.
Nige
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