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Post by teasel on Jan 31, 2016 15:10:22 GMT
Hope it's OK to post a petition I came across after a litter picking session when most of what I picked was polystyrene. The petition is to ban fast food polystyrene packaging in Wales. The public smoking thing and plastic bags thing seem to have worked so it would be good if this did too, but I don't think it has much publicity. If it gets through maybe it will extend to the rest of the UK? Anyway, if anyone who agrees could sign it and share it I would be grateful as I have had a "thing" about polystyrene for years! Thanks Ann you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ban-polystyrene-eps-fast-food-and-drinks-packaging
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Post by alf1951 on Feb 3, 2016 8:25:45 GMT
A worthy cause and I've just signed but wonder will a signature from someone with an English postcode be counted in a campaign for Wales?
Alf
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Post by teasel on Feb 3, 2016 11:31:17 GMT
thanks Alf, I wondered that too I suppose the stuff would blow into England on a windy day
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Post by NellyDee on Feb 11, 2016 10:35:36 GMT
Greenpeace have a big on line petition for the banning of the plastic bubbles that are put in make up and scrubs and reckon by 2020 there will be more of the stuff than fish in the ocean and the damage it does to nature is unbelievable. I too have a thing about all plastics and polystyrene so I will sign the Welsh petition. Answering teasel - It does not just blow into England. After our recent gales there were bits of polystyrene, little balls of the stuff, broken bits of food boxes and bits obviously broken up from sheets of it scattered around my area, including on the veranda. I live in what is called remote, there are no take-away outlets within 40 miles of here. I presume that the other bits were the discarded polystyrene that appliances etc are delivered in.
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Post by ayjay on Feb 11, 2016 12:30:13 GMT
It would be nice to think that education would be better than legislation but unfortunately I don't think it'll work.
Too many people are too lazy to do more than just toss their garbage anywhere they please.
Edit:.....and signed.
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Post by teasel on Feb 11, 2016 13:02:57 GMT
Thanks for signing The plastic bubbles is another (of many) worthy petitions, and another ingredient to look out for when I'm buying things. I have this mad idea that if people are still around in a long time from now, their oil will be made from our thrown away plastic. I think I need to get out more And the design of some litter bins doesn't help, particularly the wire bins with plastic bags, I've seen them emptied by a strong wind in the wrong direction!
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Post by shirl100 on Feb 11, 2016 15:21:12 GMT
I also have a thing about polystyrene, it ends up above or below ground and probably stays there for a very long time. There must be a suitable, biodegradable alternative. Signed of course.
Shirl
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Post by teasel on Feb 24, 2016 11:17:55 GMT
Thanks again
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Post by rowanberry on Feb 24, 2016 20:05:44 GMT
By plastic bubbles, do you mean bubblewrap, or is it a different one?
As to possible alternatives to polystyrene, I don't know why they can't use the sort of pressed cardboard that organic suppliers use for fruit and veg. It seems to hold up well- I've seen tomatoes and mushrooms in them.
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Post by ayjay on Feb 24, 2016 20:25:21 GMT
As to possible alternatives to polystyrene, I don't know why they can't use the sort of pressed cardboard that organic suppliers use for fruit and veg. It seems to hold up well- I've seen tomatoes and mushrooms in them. It probably comes down to cost in the end, a fraction of a penny difference when multiplied by tens of thousands/millions will have the accountants wringing their hands.
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Post by teasel on Feb 24, 2016 22:45:36 GMT
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Post by ayjay on Feb 25, 2016 12:10:52 GMT
there is a great alternative for polystyrene packaging just starting to become available, which is made using chopped straw and a fungal mycelium,and which (i think) is totally bio degradeable, what the cost differences are i dont know,but its got to be much more planet Earth friendly than polystyrene . heres just one of the many links on the subject, www.terrafunga.com/mycelium-eco-friendly-alternative-to-styrofoam/it need some good initiative from the government to bring about any changes needed, but being British, they are just never going to get around to it The world is changing slowly. I'm heartened by the fact that today's youngsters are much more aware of environmental issues than we were 50/60 years ago. They will be in charge one day: let's hope that they are not all seduced by the needs of large corporations.
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Post by rowanberry on Feb 26, 2016 21:52:29 GMT
Wow... I hadn't come across those before. Why can people just use common old fine-grain sand, if they want to exfoliate?! Or a loofah, for that matter. In Lanzarote, you can pick up chunks of pumice rock for free! That stuff will take the hide off a rhino, never mind rough elbows.
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Post by alf1951 on Feb 27, 2016 8:31:39 GMT
I find it hard to share your views on today's youngsters Ajay. Yesterday I drove along a country road to a nearby village and for a distance of over a mile the verge on one side was littered with paper, discarded plastic bags, styrene food containers, beer cans and various other drinks containers. Finally, on the outskirts of the village, I came across what look like two discarded camping mattresses. I doubt it was the local pensioners who were responsible!
Alf
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Post by ayjay on Feb 27, 2016 10:17:03 GMT
I find it hard to share your views on today's youngsters Ajay. Yesterday I drove along a country road to a nearby village and for a distance of over a mile the verge on one side was littered with paper, discarded plastic bags, styrene food containers, beer cans and various other drinks containers. Finally, on the outskirts of the village, I came across what look like two discarded camping mattresses. I doubt it was the local pensioners who were responsible! Alf It's not so much a view on today's youngsters Alf, more a view on how the world is changing, many schools have projects which encourage pupils to become involved in environmental projects from an early age: programmes on TV like Springwatch, which viewers of a more serious nature may decry as being too populist do attract a large young audience which can only encourage more involvement and hopefully concern for their environment. There's definitely no shortage of young idiots out there, but the more enlightened ones who go about their lives quietly and without bringing themselves to the attention of everyone else with their errant ways are far more likely to be the ones in charge of the environment (and more) in the future - there is hope.
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