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Post by NellyDee on Sept 18, 2016 14:32:23 GMT
Getting all in a fuff at spotting the return of my roe deer with fawn, I grabbed the camera (did not have my glasses on) managed to see that I had fawn in viewfinder but on wrong setting so just kept moving the dial presumably through auto, manual, advance sp etc. and taking photos. Much to my surprise, when downloading photos, I had managed to get a good photo that seems to be shaded off to give a circular vocal point. I like the effect but no idea how I got it. Still a novice I have not yet progressed beyond zoom, auto and SP settings.
Young Male Roe Deer by Helen Skelton, on Flickr
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Post by accipiter on Sept 18, 2016 16:12:03 GMT
I have no idea either Helen, but it is a simply delightful subject / photo. I have never agreed with the experts who say it must be pin sharp and this placed here or placed there in order to be perfect, which to my mind and in most cases produces a boring very odd looking photo indeed.
Of course having already said that being pin sharp does have its place and is also very nice to see, it may also win you prizes but the total pleasing result in every case, I think not to which your photo has proved my point.
Note
Hang on though there is a way you can tell what your camera setting were by looking on your pc photo settings, first double click on your photo in order to enlarge, then right click on mouse where you should see a drop-down tag appear, click on file information which will reveal your camera settings
Thank you for posting.
Alan
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Post by ayjay on Sept 19, 2016 7:46:51 GMT
The effect is called "vignetting", (it could be added afterwards if you wanted to).
For it to occur naturally I suspect that you have used a long focal length (full zoom) and some other setting which has caused less light to reach reach the corners of the frame.
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Post by Tringa on Sept 19, 2016 7:51:47 GMT
That's interesting. Vignetting is caused by number of reasons, for example
a wide angle lens (or for a zoom lens, the lens is set at the wide end of its range) with a wide aperture (eg small f/number) can sometimes show the effect. If this was the reason I would be surprised to see it a marked as this and I assume you were more likely to have had the lens towards the top end of its zoom range, rather than at a wide angle.
Having a thick rimmed filter or a very large lenshood can produce this effect but again only likely to be noticeable on wide angle lenses.
Was the shot taken through a window or from inside a doorway where there might have been something that restricted the light towards the edges of the scene?
Did this effect show up on any of the other photos you took at the same time?
I'm guessing from you saying you were surprised that you haven't seen vignetting before.
I have just had a look at the EXIF data for this shot and as it was taken at f5.6 at 1/125s and with a focal length of 160mm I'm surprised to see this. If I had to put money on it I would go for some factor external to the camera as the cause.
If you get a chance can you take another shot of the scene from the same place and with the same settings (aperture, focal length and shutter speed) as you used in the above photo and see if it is reproduced?
However, a good shot of a wildlife event.
Dave
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Post by accipiter on Sept 19, 2016 9:19:45 GMT
Ah yes vignetting I recognise the effect now, but I am like you Helen in that I know next to nothing about photography, and really have very little interest either.
As you may know most of my photos are taken in low light i.e. the inside of woods just for identification of individual birds that my camera is capable of.
I did try some time ago every setting known to man but in the end the automatic setting always gave by far the best result. This could well have been due to the camera I am using being a bridge camera as opposed to a much more expensive DSLR plus at least a 600 mm lens which really for my use would be a waste of money not to mention the weight of the said items needed. Alan
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Post by NellyDee on Sept 19, 2016 16:02:29 GMT
Thanks Alan I learn something new every day. I never knew I could right click a photo and get so much information - I was gob smacked! Thanks Dave also. Only two of the photos came out like this one, as I say I was frantically turning the dial at the top of my camera to different pre-set(default set not by me). My camera is a Fuji Finepix S1 and I merely zoomed till a had the fawn in view. The photo was taken with me standing a good 2" from behind the window and angled between the branches of a mini tree I have in the bay window. I did not have time to move a chair so I could get closer to the window as I was faffing around like a headless chicken. However with the information you have given me and now knowing the photo can tell all, I intend trying to learn a bit more about my camera so I can set it up properly. so far I have only used Auto and SR Auto, the zoom and the macro. I have accidentally used the panorama a couple of times and more than once accidently gone into video record. However! I have now printed off the manual, instead of trying to read it on the computer.
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Post by Tringa on Sept 20, 2016 7:11:50 GMT
From the above information I think the effect was caused by your position when you took the shot - being inside and a little back from the window and between the branches of a tree.
The EXIF data is invaluable and as every digital photo is effectively free, experimentation is financially painless, unlike the good old days of film.
The camera manual is definitely a good place to start though they, understandably, tell you more about how to make the camera work than what the effect the settings will have. There are lots of photographic guides online. If you want try googling for 'the exposure triangle'
Dave
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Post by rowanberry on Sept 28, 2016 20:39:22 GMT
However it happened it's a lovely photo.
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Post by jeffnsue on Jan 23, 2017 21:49:39 GMT
Hi Helen, just chanced upon this thread long after the event, but it made me curious. Is it possible you used one of the ‘Scene’ modes while twiddling the dial? It looks to me as though the ‘Toy Camera’ scene mode produces this type of vignetting and possibly a little bit of softening too. Twiddle again and see if you can produce something similar. Jeff
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Post by Tringa on Jan 25, 2017 19:43:58 GMT
Interesting point Jeff and I think very possible. I had not thought of something like an inbuilt scene mode.
Does your camera have a scene mode that could have this effect, Helen?
Dave
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Post by NellyDee on Feb 3, 2017 14:06:45 GMT
Thanks guys. I discovered that I had turned the dial round to Advanced, which apparently has special filter modes, I have yet to learn how to change different filters in the mode, I presume the default setting on this is the effect I got with the roe deer. However as I like this effect I will stick with it for now. I like the idea of using different filters, as sometimes, with scenery especially, I just don't seem to pick up the beautiful effect of mists over the mountains or down the glens, sunrises and sunsets give a problem as well, always show it pink instead of red or shades of pink. Hey ho, I am still learning.
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Post by kentyeti on Mar 29, 2017 14:53:34 GMT
Still a novice I have not yet progressed beyond zoom, auto and SP settings. Stay like that Helen, and keep enjoying the wildlife! Cameras can sometimes take over your life and get in the way of enjoying the subject. Cheers, Bryan
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Post by rowanberry on Mar 29, 2017 20:00:42 GMT
That is very true... I remember when we went to visit a farm in Wales where they feed the red kites every day, and I got caught up in taking photos, becoming frustrated because I wasn't getting any good shots. It occurred to me suddenly that I wasn't really watching the spectacle of dozens of red kites putting on the most amazing aerial display, and I put the camera down to just sit and enjoyed what was happening in front of me. Cameras are great things, but they can get in the way of seeing, sometimes!
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